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    I was waiting for the members to comment before I made mine on this article.

    Many of the members here are correct in that this is a pure propaganda article but I was particularly interested in the details of how and why it is so.


    Today in the common technique of the left it is to demonize any opposition and we see the opening steps of this demonization in the very title. Pro 2nd Amendment people wanting to exercise their rights are now "extremists.".

    This is textbook leftist labeling technique.

    It is also out of the GFW Hegel technique of "thesis, anti thesis, and synthesis." Most of us know this kind of mind manipulation as "Good Cop/Bad Cop."

    You see this a plenty on the left as such an propaganda technique.


    Now scroll down to the first paragraph and note that their technique is to frame an argument in terms of a narrative for which they can control emotionally and one for which emotionally others would not be able to easily control.

    Years ago the gun control people tried to, use hunting to frame their arguments and it failed. They have since learned their lesson. They have now reframed their position to appeal to the segment of America interested in safety and...in particular...women voters.

    For they know that by appealing emotionally to women voters that these women voters are the most likely to vote for safety and willing to sacrifice the rights and or property of others to get safety...or even the "appearance" of safety.


    The problem no one seems want to bring up or notice is that the Second Amendment says nothing about safety in like manner to that it does not say anything about hunting.


    The other standard leftist Good Cop/Bad Cop technique is "labeling their opposition."

    Extremists...supremacists...and furthermore....White Supremacists.

    If you notice this is the exact pattern and technique by which the left has attempted to label the current President....extremist, Nazi, homophobe, racist, white supremist etc. etc. etc. et al.


    They not only resort to labeling to make their points but also open and blatant Racism. All this while trying to frame others as Racists.

    This is further appeal to emotional manipulation among those they consider easily and emotionally controlled. This particularly by Good Cop/Bad Cop techniques.

    They cannot allow reason and logic to enter and upset their manipulation methods. They must always appeal to the emotionally weak and insecure.

    The Second Amendment says nothing about Race, nor Hunting, nor Safety. Few seem to notice this while they reframe the argument in terms that they and the media control.
    This is bait and switch. It is not 2A.

    Time and events are showing the left to be the essence of the very thing for which they try to label others...in particular....extremists in all their points.

    Their labeling and re framing propaganda techniques are designed to conceal that it is they who are the extremists against the rights and liberties of the American people and our form of limited government.


    Just a bit of what I notice about much of the leftist techniques of social manipulation....and it stands out in this article.


    You are going to see much much more of this Rabid manipulation technique before the 2020 election as a standard bill of fare. You are seeing it extensively in leftist media today.

    I attribute much of this to the understanding that the left cannot change their spots. Good Cop/Bad Cop is also standard issue Socialist/Communist Propaganda technique.

    I am very disappointed in the NRA as well as other pro 2A groups for not teaching this awareness of such an oft used/misused propaganda technique on the American people...not just on 2A but on other social issues as well. It ought not to be this way. The American people need to be awakened/awoke to it across this land as a standard leftist propaganda control technique....for "Herding!!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by altajava View Post
    I've already seen reports of antifa types making troubling comments on this book of faces thing, and that the posts don't stay up long enough to get recorded. These leftists have lost their minds with Trump winning, and I don't doubt for a minute they may start something.

    In years past our lobby day would bring out the Bloomberg paid protesters, but never more than 15-20 would show. It appears they are a bit more emboldened this time.

    this rally isn't Charlottesville - it will single minded with one common cause - going to be a sea of camo and orange hunting clothing >>>> wouldn't be a very good idea to start a confrontation ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illini Warrior View Post
    this rally isn't Charlottesville - it will single minded with one common cause - going to be a sea of camo and orange hunting clothing >>>> wouldn't be a very good idea to start a confrontation ...
    Who said it was Charlottesville? Did you happen to notice I live in this state? VCDL is not a hunting group, there has never been a sea of camouflage at our meetings, ever.


    listening to Chris Plante this morning, he had audio that was taken from a conversation with someone on Bernies staff. The guy was asked what will happen when Trump is reelected, he said "cities will burn", of which I have no doubt. The socialists in this country have been emboldened by eight years of Oblabermouth and a socialist DNC run press
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    [QUOTE=altajava;772891]Who said it was Charlottesville? Did you happen to notice I live in this state? VCDL is not a hunting group, there has never been a sea of camouflage at our meetings, ever.


    listening to Chris Plante this morning, he had audio that was taken from a conversation with someone on Bernies staff. The guy was asked what will happen when Trump is reelected, he said "cities will burn", of which I have no doubt. The socialists in this country have been emboldened by eight years of Oblabermouth and a socialist DNC run press


    Here you have leftist entitlement devout and zealous religion at work...tolerance.

    These guys verily think this country is their private domain...fiefdom. These guys are Ishmaelites.


    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-trump-voters/



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    Quote Originally Posted by altajava View Post
    Who said it was Charlottesville? Did you happen to notice I live in this state? VCDL is not a hunting group, there has never been a sea of camouflage at our meetings, ever.


    listening to Chris Plante this morning, he had audio that was taken from a conversation with someone on Bernies staff. The guy was asked what will happen when Trump is reelected, he said "cities will burn", of which I have no doubt. The socialists in this country have been emboldened by eight years of Oblabermouth and a socialist DNC run press
    The burning cities will simply be the purging of rats nests. And we need to be waiting on the outskirts bent on having a serious rat killing...as Jerry Clower would state it.

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    All this "back and forth" can be summed up in one short phrase from Ben Franklin: "those who would give up essential liberties for a little temporary safety deserve neither". This needs no further discussion or explanation. It really is self explanatory.

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    [QUOTE=orangetom1999;772892]
    Quote Originally Posted by altajava View Post
    Who said it was Charlottesville? Did you happen to notice I live in this state? VCDL is not a hunting group, there has never been a sea of camouflage at our meetings, ever.


    listening to Chris Plante this morning, he had audio that was taken from a conversation with someone on Bernies staff. The guy was asked what will happen when Trump is reelected, he said "cities will burn", of which I have no doubt. The socialists in this country have been emboldened by eight years of Oblabermouth and a socialist DNC run press


    Here you leftist entitlement devout and zealous religion at work...tolerance.

    These guys verily think this country is their private domain...fiefdom. These guys are Ishmaelites.


    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-trump-voters/



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    That's the article he was talking about, I'm missed the opening where he said it was project veritas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by altajava View Post
    Who said it was Charlottesville? Did you happen to notice I live in this state? VCDL is not a hunting group, there has never been a sea of camouflage at our meetings, ever.


    listening to Chris Plante this morning, he had audio that was taken from a conversation with someone on Bernies staff. The guy was asked what will happen when Trump is reelected, he said "cities will burn", of which I have no doubt. The socialists in this country have been emboldened by eight years of Oblabermouth and a socialist DNC run press

    ????? - guess I'm going to have to start drawing cartoons for some of you - don't have all day for remedial readers here

    if you live there you should be aware that Charlottesville was a liberal trap with state cooperation - NOW - try to use your brain just a bit and make a comparison to what you think Richmond will be ...

    I'm reading more conceited regional bigot azzhole than anything else - RIGHT??????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illini Warrior View Post
    this rally isn't Charlottesville - it will single minded with one common cause - going to be a sea of camo and orange hunting clothing >>>> wouldn't be a very good idea to start a confrontation ...
    Just my opinion, but I think wearing camo and orange hunting attire to such an event would send the wrong message. I would think that every day attire would be more appropriate because these moron politicians need to realize its every day, working folks that are raising their voices in protest. Farmers, car salesmen, small business owners of various stripes, church going people; folks of that sort. Politicians need to know its good, hard working folks, solid citizens from good communities, people with REAL common sense, that ain't a-gonna tolerate this dictatorship. Again, just my opinion, but I think that would have a lot more influence. Of course, YMMV.

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    [QUOTE=altajava;772895]
    Quote Originally Posted by orangetom1999 View Post

    That's the article he was talking about, I'm missed the opening where he said it was project veritas.

    In the first sentence of the first and second paragraph.

    First paragraph,
    An undercover video published by Project Veritas on Tuesday shows a field organizer for Sen. Bernie Sanders’ 2020 campaign saying Soviet gulags were actually a positive phenomenon, suggesting that some similar program could re-educate Trump supporters and billionaires.

    Second paragraph,
    The video begins with a Project Veritas journalist asking an individual identified as Sanders organizer Kyle Jurek if “MAGA people” could be re-educated if Sanders wins the White House.

    Entitled Ishmaelites who think their entitlement beliefs are superior to people being secure in their persons and property. That this nation belongs to them.

    Ishmaelite = Bondage/Herding.


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