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    Likely none in most races.
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    I'm not sure but that even with the current make up of SCOTUS, this won't have much chance of passin' judicial review. Most likely, any lower court that passed it on to the Supremes would have it dumped right back in their lap. It's pretty hard to see how any "logical" appeals court would let this get very far.
    YMMV

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    While I am not certain of the statute ...I believe the states of the United States are bound by the Constitution of the United States...even in their oaths of office...as the Supreme Law of the Land....not their own state laws....but the Supreme Law of the Land.


    Ok...looked it up....Article 6 clause two..


    This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

    It has been awhile since I have read this part of the Constitution but I remember the basics..the Supreme Law of the Land. And the electoral college is in the Constitution.


    California is what Ishmaelites do.....by their very nature....after all...they are sitting on the only one in town...just like New York and Washington DC....everyone else is flyover country.


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    I am not a legal scholar but all elections are state run so this action might very well be completely legal. People vote in state or local elections because there are no federal elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiwall View Post
    I am not a legal scholar but all elections are state run so this action might very well be completely legal. People vote in state or local elections because there are no federal elections.
    Well, for one thing, this is definitely disenfranchisement of all states with lesser populations and far fewer electoral votes. Don't think so? In recent times several states, when realigning voting districts, had it reversed by some judge because it created an unfair imbalance in the system. If this isn't the very same thing, just on a grander scale, then will you please explain to this dumb ole country boy what the hell else it is! Frigging democrats want EVERYTHING fixed in their favor, and no measure, no matter how unethical or unfair or even illegal, is beyond them. And this crooked system of ours permits them to get away with it more often than not. Not coming on strong at you, Hiwall. I'm just venting I suppose. I'm fed up with the back shooting', bottom dealing, forked tongued, lying cheating demonic anti American socialists masquerading as the democrat party...and about two thirds of the republican party as well. They're destroying this nation, and if it isn't brought into check I'm afraid it isn't going to be to far in the future that there is going to be a whole bunch of blood shed across this land. I certainly don't want to see that, but something has got to happen to knock that bunch of slimy, power-mad slugs on their collective ass, or we're finished. Again, Hiwall, this isn't directed at you, buddy. I'm just pissed in general at how things are going in our country, and I just can foresee some scary, terrible stuff around the corner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beowulf View Post
    Well, for one thing, this is definitely disenfranchisement of all states with lesser populations and far fewer electoral votes. Don't think so? In recent times several states, when realigning voting districts, had it reversed by some judge because it created an unfair imbalance in the system. If this isn't the very same thing, just on a grander scale, then will you please explain to this dumb ole country boy what the hell else it is! Frigging democrats want EVERYTHING fixed in their favor, and no measure, no matter how unethical or unfair or even illegal, is beyond them. And this crooked system of ours permits them to get away with it more often than not. Not coming on strong at you, Hiwall. I'm just venting I suppose. I'm fed up with the back shooting', bottom dealing, forked tongued, lying cheating demonic anti American socialists masquerading as the democrat party...and about two thirds of the republican party as well. They're destroying this nation, and if it isn't brought into check I'm afraid it isn't going to be to far in the future that there is going to be a whole bunch of blood shed across this land. I certainly don't want to see that, but something has got to happen to knock that bunch of slimy, power-mad slugs on their collective ass, or we're finished. Again, Hiwall, this isn't directed at you, buddy. I'm just pissed in general at how things are going in our country, and I just can foresee some scary, terrible stuff around the corner.

    Wow Olde Timer!!!!


    Don't Candy coat it...tell it straight!!!


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    by Hiwall....

    I am not a legal scholar but all elections are state run so this action might very well be completely legal. People vote in state or local elections because there are no federal elections.
    Except that this election on a Federal level is governed by the Constitution as far as Electors...and the intent of the Electoral College by the Framers.

    Certain states are trying to circumvent the intent of the Framers in the Electoral College.

    I have thought for some years now that the left and the Phony Rhino Right are poor winners and even poorer losers. And I am in agreement with The Olde Timer.

    Ishmaelites run wild across this land....trying to rig everything because they are poor winners and also poor losers.


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    The Peoples State of Washington, The Democratic Republic of Oregon, and The Communist California Democratic Republic all allow illegal aliens to have driver's licenses. They also have "motor voter" laws which automatically register anyone with a driver's license to vote. I have a real problem with this both at the state level and especially at the federal level.

    At the state level, it means the states have an unblockable uni-party. The state starts going into debt due to over spending and requires more and more federal funding to provide even the most basic services. The cities turn into literal toilets and crime causes the cities to rot from within. The state representatives become more and more corrupt.

    At the federal level, it means there can be no honest election. Because of the anonymity of the vote, it is impossible to determine a valid vote from a fraudulent one.

    What I find as the most ironic thing about this whole situation, is sadly, we have sent tens of thousands of our young men and women to foreign countries to fight for their ability to have free and fair elections, when we don't have that ability here.
    We learn from history that we do not learn from history. Georg Wilhelm F. Hegel

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangetom1999 View Post
    Wow Olde Timer!!!!


    Don't Candy coat it...tell it straight!!!


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    Not an Ishmaelite!!
    (Heh, heh) Yeah, well, as a Non Com I seldom had the "luxury" of tippy-toeing through the tulips. I learned the direct approach was the most effective when there was work to be done, and that philosophy just seems to have stuck with me. No regrets. You might say that George Patton was sort of my mentor. I greatly admire General Patton and his methods. If there's a problem...FIX IT...then get on with the tasks at hand. I once took a survey to see which famous military leaders I compared with. The result was I was in the same company as men like George Patton, Erwin Rommel, William T. Sherman, Robert E. Lee, U.S. Grant and a couple others. All men I hold in high esteem. Some in the South still get their feathers ruffled when you mention Bill Sherman and his march through Atlanta. I'm a Southerner, born and raised, but as a professional military man I fully understand and realize that General Sherman was simply doing his job...to destroy the enemy's will and ability to fight. No more, no less. That sometimes requires some extremely drastic measures, and no leader enjoys it. I could probably offer a lengthy lecture on the "conduct of war", but I won't. Not only would it take too long, it would also bore the crap out of too many folks. (Chuckle)
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    Caller to the local show told a funny.

    "Imagine if these states go through all this crap, and Trump wins by a landslide, ala Reagan in 1984. Those poor states would have their hands tied by their own law."
    Μολὼν λαβέ (Molon labe), “Come and get them!”

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