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    gotta go to the link below and see how they are doing it.
    this Fisher guy has been denied Corp of Engineers contracts and he is not happy
    funded by the Build the Wall gofundme gang.
    so doing it on private land to show how fast (and cheap) he can do it
    and Kris Kobach (maybe new immigration director) loves it, maybe Trump will get wind of it
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    A private group announced Monday that it has constructed a half-mile wall along a section of the U.S.-Mexico border in New Mexico, in what it said was a first in the border debate.

    The 18-foot steel bollard wall is similar to the designs used by the Border Patrol, sealing off a part of the border that had been a striking gap in existing fencing, according to We Build the Wall, the group behind the new section.

    The section was also built faster and, organizers say, likely more cheaply than the government has been able to manage in recent years.

    Kris Kobach, a former secretary of state in Kansas and an informal immigration adviser to President Trump, says the New Mexico project has the presidentís blessing and says local Border Patrol agents are eager to have the assistance.

    ďWeíre closing a gap thatís been a big headache for them,Ē said Mr. Kobach, who is general counsel for We Build the Wall.

    The announcement comes at a critical time for the border.

    Mr. Trumpís plans to build hundreds of miles of new and replacement wall took a hit late last week when a federal judge ordered a halt to part of his emergency declaration and shifting of money within the Pentagon to make up for Congressís refusal to grant him the money he wanted.

    Judge Haywood Gilliam says the president canít spend money when Congress has debated it and refused to approve it.

    Enter We Build the Wall, which says now that itís proved it can build border wall. The group has eyes on other areas where private landowners hold border lands and want a barrier to cut down on the illegal traffic across their property.

    The new wall begins at the Rio Grande and runs up to the lower elevations of Mount Cristo Rey. The wall on the Texas side ends at the river, and there used to be a gap on the New Mexico side running from the river over to Mount Cristo Rey.

    Two parking lots, one on the Mexican side and one on the U.S. side, with naught but a ditch to separate them, offered a convenient staging point for would-be migrants.

    Mr. Kobach says agents have told him perhaps 100 migrants a night cross ó but the bigger problem is that they would cross, gaining agentsí attention, then drug smugglers would use the distraction to run drugs through elsewhere in the gap.

    A typical night could exceed $100,000 worth of drugs through the gap, Mr. Kobach said.

    Construction began Friday and will be completed Tuesday. Tommy Fisherís Fisher Sand & Gravel did the construction.

    Mr. Fisher has been in the news recently with Mr. Trump suggesting repeatedly and publicly that the government should consider his outfit for future border wall construction.

    He was one of the contractors selected in 2017 to build wall prototypes in San Diego. None of those prototypes was deemed contract-worthy, and Congress has forbidden the Border Patrol from using any of those designs anyway.

    More recently, Mr. Fisher announced he could build 234 miles of fencing at $1.4 billion ó or about $6 million per mile. Thatís about a quarter of the cost of Mr. Trumpís current fencing, which goes off at about $25 million per mile.

    The half-mile in New Mexico cost $8 million, but Mr. Kobach said because part of it involved building on Mount Cristo Rey and involved moving a lot of dirt, thatís more expensive than most mileage would be.

    A private wall has been a dream of border security enthusiasts for years.

    More than a decade ago, adherents of the Minuteman movement, which sought to draw attention to the lack of border barriers in Arizona, constructed some fencing on a ranch in southeastern Arizona. The fencing was approved by local authorities as a way to corral cattle but was also seen as a way of blocking illegal migration, The Arizona Daily Star reported in 2006.

    Organizers said funding didnít materialize to finish that project.

    The new wall in New Mexico is up along the border and designed just like the Border Patrolís structures, intended to be a deterrent to illegal crossing.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...lt-new-mexico/

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    Sometimes the old American "CAN DO!!!!" spirit still prevails! Good on them!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyGunn View Post
    Sometimes the old American "CAN DO!!!!" spirit still prevails! Good on them!!!!
    Yes, lets just do it ourselves....I recently went on a Jeep trip on the old Highway 80 (now Rte . It is/was a 2 lane concrete road over the mountains and through the desert, built in early 1900's. Guess who built it? The Gov't? No.....it was constructed by the San Diego and Yuma Chambers Of Commerce...to move people and products. Got done faster and cheaper. F the Gov't.

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    I agree! Let's just do it ourselves. We should have done it long ago, before the influx reached our borders. Damn liberals!
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    Sunnyland Park, NM Mayor, JAVIER PEREA, has ordered a cessation of the construction at that location. He states they have not obtained the proper permits for construction and that the wall violates the city standard for how tall a structure can be. Former Kansas Secretary of State, Kris Kobach, who sits on the advisory board of "We build he Wall" refutes these claims. He says the land owner DID obtain the proper permits for the construction and that inspectors were present at the build site prior to construction beginning. Read the Mayo's name again and draw your own conclusions.

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    the construction contracts for The Wall aren't any different under the Trump Administration than before >>> there's favored companies - and this guy that did the wall building stunt isn't one of them ...

    there isn't and never will be a FED project of ANY kind where someone can't do it better/faster/cheaper ....

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    after a brief halt by some tone deaf mayor, his bluff was called and work resumed
    power of the people on display

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    The Sunland Park city hall was flooded with phone calls and emails after news of the cease and desist order broke on Tuesday. We Build The Wall executives urged people to contact Sunland Park and advocate for the wall, spreading the phone number for the city hall on Twitter. After the new permits were issued, We Build The Wall executives asked supporters to call and thank city officials.

    "I got 800 calls on my answering machine in one hour. They're all calling from out of state. They are in favor of the wall," a Sunland Park city official told KTSM. Perea said he has thousands of emails sitting unopened in his inbox.

    Perea said he has received hundreds of death threats related to the border wall project and has increased police presence in the town.

    "There have been [threats directed] to me and my family with threats of coming down and shooting us all," said Perea. "It is concerning, it is alarming cause we are a community with limited resources."

    Sunland Park Mayor Javier Perea issued the cease and desist order after city officials found that We Build The Wall did not have the proper permits and had violated city ordinances. Perea announced the reversal in a press conference Thursday.

    "There were two permits that were issued on behalf of the city. Those permits were issued prematurely by staff, but we are now in communication with the company and the owner of the property to ensure that if we are going to continue forward with this particular issue, that they need to come into compliance with all city ordinances and regulations, including any state requirements," Perea said.

    "There are still some issues with those permits, but being that the staff did release those permits, we have reached out that we will be in communication and that they will have to be coming into compliance with all city ordinances," Perea said.

    Veteran Brian Kolfage launched We Build The Wall and raised roughly $22 million to construction a U.S.-Mexico border wall on private land through a viral GoFundMe campaign. Kolfage celebrated the new permits Thursday morning on Twitter.

    "WINNING!! @WeBuildtheWall was given the green light yesterday afternoon by the city of Sunland Park to resume construction, and our permits were re-issued. From the start We Build The Wall, Inc complied with all regulations as required by law as we stated," Kolfage said.

    WINNING!! @WeBuildtheWall was given the green light yesterday afternoon by the city of Sunland Park to resume construction, and our permits were re-issued. From the start We Build The Wall, Inc complied with all regulations as required by law as we stated.@JackPosobiec #Trump pic.twitter.com/XcUnMKvK3i

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    $22 million? WOW! That is fantastic! Texas is getting their wall without gov intervention! This is exciting!
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    That is awesome. Just shows what pressure from the citizens applied in the right place can do. More of these needs to go on around the country for many different projects.
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