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    Default White House seeks revisions to Dems' FISA rebuttal memo, halting release

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...g-release.html


    Our Pres is one smart cookie! He sent their memo back to the Dems for THEM to revise it. He's not going to revise, redact or reject. Put the memo back on them... Hahaha! SMAAAAAART COOKIE!

    "Trump promises developments on the Democratic memo
    Washington continues to wait for the president to release the rebuttal to the Republican memo alleging bias in the FBI and DOJ; Catherine Herridge goes in-depth for 'Special Report.'

    The White House on Friday told Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee to redraft their rebuttal to a controversial GOP memo alleging government surveillance abuse during the 2016 campaign, saying sensitive details need to be stripped before it can be made public.

    The message was sent to the committee in a Friday letter from White House Counsel Don McGahn.

    "Although the president is inclined to declassify the February 5th Memorandum, because the Memorandum contains numerous properly classified and especially sensitive passages, he is unable to do so at this time," McGahn wrote.

    "However, given the public interest in transparency in these unprecedented circumstances, the President has directed that Justice Department personnel be available to give technical assistance to the Committee, should the Committee wish to revise the February 5th Memorandum to mitigate the risks identified by the Department. The President encourages the Committee to undertake these efforts. The Executive Branch stands ready to review any subsequent draft of the February 5th Memorandum for declassification at the earliest opportunity."

    Earlier this week, the House Intelligence Committee had approved the release of the Democrats' memo, giving President Trump five days to consider whether he should block publication for national security reasons.

    The White House letter, for now, halts the release.

    “The President’s double standard when it comes to transparency is appalling," Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said in a statement following the release of McGahn's letter. "The rationale for releasing the Nunes memo, transparency, vanishes when it could show information that’s harmful to him. Millions of Americans are asking one simple question: what is he hiding?”

    Democrats have been expected to use their memo to try to undermine Republican claims that the FBI and DOJ relied heavily on the anti-Trump dossier to get a warrant to spy on a Trump associate -- and omitted key information about the document's political funding. Democrats claim the GOP memo was misleading.

    "We think this will help inform the public of the many distortions and inaccuracies in the majority memo," California Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the panel, said Monday.

    But it was expected that the Democrats' memo might raise red flags during the review period.

    A source who read the FISA rebuttal memo told Fox News earlier this week that it is filled with sources and methods taken from the original documents. The source argued this was done to strategically force the White House into either denying release of the memo or significantly redacting it, so Democrats could accuse the White House of making redactions for political reasons.

    INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE APPROVES RELEASE OF DEMS’ REBUTTAL TO FISA MEMO

    South Carolina Rep. Trey Gowdy, a GOP member of the committee, said during an interview this week on Fox News’ “The Story with Martha MacCallum” that Democrats “are politically smart enough to put things in the memo” that have to be redacted.

    “Therefore, it creates this belief that there's something being hidden from the American people,” Gowdy said.

    Last Friday, Republicans on the intelligence committee released their much-anticipated memo from Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif.

    It also said the FBI and DOJ “ignored or concealed” dossier author Christopher Steele’s “anti-Trump financial and ideological motivations" when asking the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court for permission to eavesdrop on former Trump adviser Carter Page.

    Democrats have been pushing back against those claims and accusing Republicans of exaggerations.

    CRIMINAL REFERRAL BACKS UP NUNES ON DOSSIER CLAIMS, AS DEMS PUSH REBUTTAL MEMO

    But earlier this week, a newly released version of a letter from Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., appeared to support key claims from the GOP memo.

    The surveillance applications, they said in a criminal referral for Steele sent in early January to FBI Director Christopher Wray and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, “relied heavily on Mr. Steele’s dossier claims.”

    Further, they said the application “failed to disclose” funding from the Clinton campaign and DNC.

    The referral also helped explain a point of contention in recent days, after Nunes seemed to admit on “Fox & Friends” that the FBI application did include a “footnote” acknowledging some political origins of the dossier. This admission helped fueled Democratic claims that the dossier’s political connection was not concealed from the surveillance court as alleged.

    According to Grassley and Graham’s referral, the FBI “noted to a vaguely limited extent the political origins of the dossier” in a footnote that said the information was compiled at the direction of a law firm “who had hired an ‘identified U.S. person’ – now known as Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS.” A subsequent passage in the letter is redacted. But they said the DNC and Clinton campaign were not mentioned.

    Republicans have seized on the Nunes document to make the accusation of widespread anti-Trump bias at the top of the FBI and DOJ that sparked the investigations into Trump campaign relations with Russia during the election.

    The president has repeatedly said there was “no collusion” between his campaign and Russia. The White House responded to the Republican memo last week by saying it “raises serious concerns about the integrity of decisions made at the highest levels of the Department of Justice and the FBI to use the government’s most intrusive surveillance tools against American citizens.”

    During a speech in Ohio on Monday, the president celebrated the release of the GOP memo, saying Republicans caught officials “in the act.”
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    This is getting better by the minute. I can envision dummycrats being depicted as a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs. Reckon they're getting a wee might nervous?

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    If I were them, I certainly would be. They aren't used to someone being 5 steps ahead of them at every turn. Trump is literally twisting their heads off without lifting a finger. They just THINK they are witty! Haha! I love that he is forcing THEM to redact or revise. They thought they were gonna force him to do it. Nope, not my yob man. You know the rules.
    He's making them hold this bag of dog Shlt and smell it. Hehe! I love Trump. He's smart, and intertaining! What finesse!
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    Quote Originally Posted by camouflaged View Post
    if i were them, i certainly would be. They aren't used to someone being 5 steps ahead of them at every turn. Trump is literally twisting their heads off without lifting a finger. They just think they are witty! Haha! I love that he is forcing them to redact or revise. They thought they were gonna force him to do it. Nope, not my yob man. You know the rules.
    He's making them hold this bag of dog shlt and smell it. Hehe! I love trump. He's smart, and intertaining! What finesse!
    lol! Damn straight!

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    I think the Dims are twisting their own heads off in spite of Trump. Hell, make them rewrite it so he doesn't have to. My question is, if he doesn't like the revisions, how many times can he continue to send it back for more changes until it suits his purposes ?

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    As many times as it takes. He's the pres. He doesn't have to revise or redact. He just keep sending it back until the Dems comply with protocol of security.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camouflaged View Post
    As many times as it takes. He's the pres. He doesn't have to revise or redact. He just keep sending it back until the Dems comply with protocol of security.
    and, of course, tell the truth, if that is even possible for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camouflaged View Post
    If I were them, I certainly would be. They aren't used to someone being 5 steps ahead of them at every turn. Trump is literally twisting their heads off without lifting a finger. They just THINK they are witty! Haha! I love that he is forcing THEM to redact or revise. They thought they were gonna force him to do it. Nope, not my yob man. You know the rules.
    He's making them hold this bag of dog Shlt and smell it. Hehe! I love Trump. He's smart, and intertaining! What finesse!

    This is called "The OODA Loop ...principle..or if you prefer ..discipline.

    I have suspected for some time that Trump and Company are aware of this as a working principle.

    https://amgreatness.com/2018/02/08/ooda-loop-president/


    The OODA loop is a military application of discipline which allowed our troops, once turned loose, to go through Iraq...like crap through a goose...so quicly and rapidly ..not once..but twice in Gulf War 1 and 2.

    This is a strategy thought up by of all people an Air Force fighter pilot and taught in particular to the US Marines who took to it like a duck in water.
    This is also why our casualties in the initial encounters were so very low. The speed at which things happened and the opposition could not keep up.
    Our troops were able to move at a much faster tempo and decision making process ..to change and adapt on the run ..than the opposition.
    This is what John Boyd taught ..first in fighter pilot tactics and then about ground warfare and eventually to a business model.

    I have suspected since shortly after the swearing in ..that Trump and Company can move faster than the left and also the phony right. I also suspect that this is also torqueing their jaws tighter than a set of vice grip pliers. Just watch the vitriol happening...on the left and the phony right.

    Here is a link to John Boyds book..for the members who might be interested. Herein is how the OODA loop came to be and how John Boyd and Company even outfoxed the Pentagon Generals and Lobbies on purchasing aircraft and other overpriced weapons systems.

    It is John Boyd's group the Fighter Mafia who helped to push through one of the most successful ground attack aircraft ever built.."the A 10 Warthog."
    It is this aircraft that our ground troops want to see when they are stuck in a tight situation and time is running out. Our ground troops swear by it...not by overpriced fast high speed jets..but by the slow maneuverable Warthog...and it's ability loiter for long periods of time and to carry ordinance precisely ...up close and personal....
    And the Air Force hates this plane and wants to retire it for overpriced fast jets. Sound familiar???? Sounds like the phony left and the phony right politicians.


    The Pentagon Generals, Admirals, lobbiests, and other politicians/special interests..came to hate John Boyd and Company in like manner as they do Trump and Company.
    Boyd learned how to out maneuver the system...and even use the system against itself....even from the basement of the Pentagon where leadership often stuck them hoping no one would notice.

    Here...

    https://www.amazon.com/Boyd-Fighter-...d+Robert+coram


    I heard El Rushbo speak of this about Trump and Company and the OODA loop yesterday on the car radio on the way to work..I was stunned as so few even know what the OODA loop is and or how it works.

    Basically it means that you can move...observe...orient,..decide and act...faster than your opponent can keep up...a much faster tempo.

    Hope this helps some of the members here....in observing history happening right in front of them.


    Thanks,
    Orangetom
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    Camouflaged,

    They just THINK they are witty! Haha! I love that he is forcing THEM to redact or revise. They thought they were gonna force him to do it. Nope, not my yob man. You know the rules. He's making them hold this bag of dog Shlt and smell it. Hehe! I love Trump. He's smart, and intertaining! What finesse!
    I know ..I know Camouflaged....me too.


    There have been days when I wanted to jump up and scream...holler out of control..at the top of my lungs.and throw popcorn boxes round and about. And that is so unlike me ..I am usually very reserved...


    But at the same time these people are very very dangerous...in their "Entitlement Beliefs." They think this country belongs to them. And they would put the rest of us in bondage to pay for it ...ad infinitum.

    What concerns me greatly is the obvious path and tendency for these people of late to root for "Civil War." They are beginning to come out in the open with and for it now. I think this will continue...

    We need to be very careful here. ....for I believe they know not what they do.


    But yes..I too was very elated at some point in what was going on ....and that the left and phony right could not keep up.




    Getting the sniffles and sore throat here.....breaking out the salt gargle...and ibuphrophen.....and also the peach brandy. I won't be doing any work out in my garage today...this is going to be a hibernation day..perhaps tomorrow too. Lots of people at work have it..was wondering when and I would get it.


    Thanks,
    Orangetom
    Last edited by orangetom1999; 02-10-2018 at 11:36 AM.

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    I can see these shmuck Democrats in their little huddle, wringing their hand, giggling behind their vault door, saying Ooo, we got him now, and before the door locks behind them to perform their stupid rituals, their counter memo is slipped under the door for them to redact/revise their own memo. Trump makes Dems eat raw crow! Gotta love the guy! He is ART in the flesh!
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