Would you fight to protect this country?

[Mister45]

Or your state or town if it came down to it? Would you stand up against
the enemy if a actual land invasion was happening or would you simply find
a place and hide and hope for the best and then crawl out later and hope that
the land was still "free"?

I, Personally would not desert my wife or family, but I would fight any that happened around my land or into my own domain.

I would not go quietly... I would resist..

[ak474u]

Lock n Load... I wouldn't WANT to desert my family either, personally I think in a conventional war/red dawn kind of scenario which is highly unlikely IMHO there would be plenty of fighting to do on the home turf anyway. You could always run to Canada and when everything is over you could come back and run for office!

[FISTER]

I think people forget how devistating the US military can be. Yes things arent going the best in Iraq and Afghanistan .... but that isnt really troop on troop. But conventional force on force warfare , like "hey kill anyone wearing that uniform or driving that vehicle" .... not too many stand a chance.

[Kobayashi Maru]

When the crier calls, I shall muster at the bridge, even as my forefathers did in 1775.

With a chance to win BACK the country, and go back to the ORIGINAL Constitution and do it RIGHT? For the sake of my kids, I GOTTA try... :rifles:

:salut:

[Seitengewehr]

I would fight .

[Encato]

YES but id get my family as safe as posible first

[MOlivo]

Im pretty much where you are. Being an only parent I couldnt leave my daughter to run off into battle. I would definately give them hell if they came within .308 distance :D

[OpenMinded]

I would so fight so my family could live free. I would hope we could gather a group of able bodied men and have the women gather together in a safe location to care for the children (LOL Call me old School). As a group I hope we would draw the line in the sand. There would be no surrender or fall back, either keep that line or make them pay for every inch they take.:rifles:

[commoguy]

i already am i suppose bout done with my second tour in iraq. but yes any day, any where, any time. someone has to do it and i dont think many of the younger generation would to be honest.

[arpacker]

I have fought long and hard on this subject, and I have decided that once my family is in a safe place I too will stand up in defense on my town, county, state, country.

[Howlingwolf]

This old man will be there!

Wolf

[praetorian]

actually have taken it several times and don't recall it having an expiration date so yes I would fight. A person has to stand up for what they believe in, no matter the cost, if they don't then we are nothing.

An oath is a bond, an agreement between an individual and something larger than themselves. Whether that something is another person, a group or even an idea it matters not. Having the conviction to stand up and say "Count on me" is a responsibility that I for one will honor.

Yes I will fight, this is my country, my home and these are my people.

:salut::rifles::soldier::shooting:

[drissel]

I would and also pass guns out to family members if they didn't bring their own...I figure in a situation that would cause me to fight, the rest of us would either fight or die...

[NonConformist]

Yes I would!

[mr slow]

I would stand up and fight to my last breath. My whole family would be fighting including my kids.

[7.62]

Yes...even if the invader is our own rogue govt.

[ZombieHunter_EKY]

I took an oath also, Just because I don't wear the uniform anymore doesn't mean I'm not a soldier. So yeah both enemies foreign and domestic.

[gray fox]

I have the exact opinion of Encato and MOlivo though. My son' s protection first then givem hell!!

[NonConformist]

When they mentioned Georgia was invaded, I immedialtey started making plans to go to Georgia, as I turned on the news I realized it was the country, not state LoL

[site59]

Be right there with you all

[maxx366]

i would fight for my country, it would be an honor

[Col.Kurtz]

I hear the drums a poundin'... lets dance.:freedom::machinegun:

[sparky241]

Let me know when and where.We must surely hang together or we'll hang separately.

[RL357Mag]

Any day, anytime, anywhere.

[GunNut]

I would stand up and fight to my last breath. My whole family would be fighting including my kids.
Well said mr slow I agree I would do the same and i would have my family right by my side guns in hand.

[Legio]

That was kinda stupid question. Who, here, would answer no?

[MOlivo]

When they mentioned Georgia was invaded, I immedialtey started making plans to go to Georgia, as I turned on the news I realized it was the country, not state LoL

Remember, when the Russians finally do invade our Georgia, LET THEM TAKE OUT ATLANTA first...then repel them :D

[Mister45]

That was kinda stupid question. Who, here, would answer no?

Mr Administrator, No offense, But you might be surprised! I have seen a site very much like this and after the same type of question as left quite a few said "No" they would leave the area of fighting due to them having family!!

So sorry for asking a "Stupid" question, but I wanted to see if there was as many that would "run" on here as there!

[Gunfixr]

Fighting for my home, my country, IS fighting for my family.

I would try to see to my familys safety for while I am gone, but it would not keep me away.

Anytime, anywhere, anyplace, there will either be victory, or death.

[Legio]

Mr Administrator, No offense, But you might be surprised! I have seen a site very much like this and after the same type of question as left quite a few said "No" they would leave the area of fighting due to them having family!!

So sorry for asking a "Stupid" question, but I wanted to see if there was as many that would "run" on here as there!

Sorry for the stupid, it looks like it did hurt your feelings. And God knows that it was not meant this way.

Pfff, gotta be careful these days!

[ak474u]

An old guy told me yesterday that he goes by the 75-20-5% rule, 75% of people won't fight, 20% will fight if they get cornered or HAVE to, and 5% are born fighters and will be sitting on the tailgate of their truck when the recruiting office opens up, or when the regular army gets to the battle there will already be friendlies waiting and holding the line.

I don't think it's unreasonable to think that some or lots of people won't fight. Fighting has lots of different meanings, would I become an insurgent ala Red Dawn o hell yea, would I join the army? MAYBE (they might not take me) also there is nothing I can do for my family from the sands of Iran. Would I go to work in the ship yard or machine shops etc. and build war materials for the effort? Yup. I think that there will come a day when a militia environment may be required on our soil. Will we still have guns by then? I dunno. WE might not have guns, but I will.

[Mister45]

Sorry for the stupid, it looks like did hurt your feelings. And God knows that it was not meant this way.

Pfff, gotta be careful these days!

Not that it really "hurt" my feelings, i just did not expect it from the administrator as they are normally Neutral and don't say things that may effect their membership and all, I appreciate the apology, I wanted to see what people said, Like I said before, Many have been surprised that many people would not fight, but would "protect" their domain and their family, Would I join the Army, no, Would I be a silent destroyer "yes", Would I stand and run at the enemy and blast away, "No".. I would blend in and shoot without ever being detected or seen.

I would be assured that the safety of my family was first and then I would work to destroy the enemy and their resources and even try to plant trouble in the midst of their troops.

This is the reason I asked this is simply because I wanted to know if there is many that would do as I'm thinking and do everything they could to stop the enemy in it's tracks..

Together we will defeat the enemy and prevent the loss of our precious freedom! Yet being ready to fight alone and hidden is important too.

[avmech]

I would fight for my country

[mitunnelrat]

i would so fight so my family could live free. I would hope we could gather a group of able bodied men and have the women gather together in a safe location to care for the children (lol call me old school). As a group i hope we would draw the line in the sand. There would be no surrender or fall back, either keep that line or make them pay for every inch they take.:rifles:

spartans... Prepare for glory!

[bob200587]

maybe......

[Legio]

i just did not expect it from the administrator as they are normally Neutral and don't say things that may effect their membership and all

It is not because I am an administrator that I have to sit and shut up. I am before all someone with ideas and the intent to voice them. I can post like everybody and get flamed like everybody. If you think that I apologized then read my post again. It was kinda sarcastic and refering to the PC bullshit we have to go through nowadays. I still think that it is a stupid question as nobody here will ever admit to not fighting even if they think it. What is your next question: Who would spit on the flag??

[AKtheBear]

I probably wouldn't fight.

:) Most of my fellow country men are a bunch of chickenshits and I will not die for no good reason. Consider the fact that most of the US military is deployed overseas right now, and how long it would take to get any kind of decent fighting force back on American soil. Let that sink in.

Now consider how many Americans either A. Are morbidly obese B. Are cowards or C. Would not know how to fight if they burned to.

I think you are starting to see the picture I am painting here.

I feel blessed to have been born in this country, but the caliber of my fellow countrymen is not the same as it was 100 years ago. I am not afraid to die for something I believe in, but I will not throw my life away needlessly.

[MOlivo]

Not that it really "hurt" my feelings, i just did not expect it from the administrator as they are normally Neutral and don't say things that may effect their membership and all


I'll personally ban every member on the website before I tell the moderators and admins they can't have an opinion, or can't rebut opinions they don't agree with. So behave yourselves kids :D

[gunbuilder69]

This may have seemed like a baiting or even a loaded type of question, but its been asked and the answers have started falling in formation. some troops say they will fight and some say they will not.........It really doesn't matter if you do or do not post your answer,rest assured,you will either fight or flee when the time comes. There will be no in between,if anyone thinks that history is wrong,dry up and go home. That being said, If we lose our country/rights in a war, what difference will it really make to those living in exile who are angry,scared,pissed? If we win our fights for freedom and sovereignty,I can take a page of history, and glean the lesson of countrymen turning on cowards and turncoats,treating them no better than those they have just defeated. The choice has already been made for you whether you personnally believe it or not.



Enjoy your freedoms,live for your god, family and countries freedom. Take every day in stride and be aware of things meant to be noted for your existence. Train hard,pass on what you learn to fellow man and son alike, and serve your country if you feel your country serves you. Everything in this life will come back to you in one form or another, so choose your actions and motives wisely!:salut::freedom:

[MOlivo]

Amen Tony :)

[Hoot]

For forty years I was a soldier or a guardsman. Much is gone. but much still remains.

[Mister45]

It is not because I am an administrator that I have to sit and shut up. I am before all someone with ideas and the intent to voice them. I can post like everybody and get flamed like everybody. If you think that I apologized then read my post again. It was kinda sarcastic and refering to the PC bullshit we have to go through nowadays. I still think that it is a stupid question as nobody here will ever admit to not fighting even if they think it. What is your next question: Who would spit on the flag??

I would not ask who would spit on the flag, Either your a clown or ignorant as hell, I may get booted or banned or labeled, But who gives a sh*t...

I asked a honest question and some one may actually honestly answer, Yet I didn't mean that you could not be human and have a say, Just that most administrators don't mind any kind of answers being posted as long as they get some sort of response. I see that unless a question lines up with your way or policy it is just "STUPID" well, I guess there will be more stupid questions posted one of these days by people that you will most likely say that you upset them...

Are you afraid that the big tough guys might actually look "weak" by admitting that they would not fight? Another stupid question... I don't think anyone would be "weak" or a "coward" because they did not want to fight, rather I think it is their "God" given right to choose..

So since I will most likely be banned, You guys that "answered" this Thread honestly.. Thanks!! I appreciate the truth, Even if some doubt that you are telling the truth.. Even if you did not fight, Your opinion and honesty is valuable to me and others..

Take Care...

[Mister45]

I'll personally ban every member on the website before I tell the moderators and admins they can't have an opinion, or can't rebut opinions they don't agree with. So behave yourselves kids :D

I did not mean the Admin or his Moderators can not have their own opinion, so I'm Man enough to personally apologize before I'm banned, but I imagine the ones banned have their posts deleted too..

So I feel I will be banned any way and no matter since I did a stupid post..

Thanks for the ones that answered honestly though and I truly do apologize that it sounded like I did not believe he had a opinion as the Admin..

Sorry.. and So long.. (I guess)

[gunbuilder69]

Settle down there troop!......you have asked a question and recieved several answers. there's sarcasm abound for all to enjoy, its the opinion give and take system,dont be so easily offended with mere opinions. you are a man I assume,good well then you've committed no violation of site policy so relax and take it in stride.
You've suggested Legio is a clown for his response and I believe he'll file that under opinion,right? you're on the board with other men(mostly alpha's I'm guessing)you're sense of scrappiness is best served building up an immunity towards such manly banter,right?
Stick around some more and contribute to the boards and try on a thicker skin. You never know when you might need one, say ....when tshtf?



"Call for help when needed and hold your head up high when served by a brother in arms" W T Sherman, General of the Union Army

[Mister45]

If I'm not banned, I will be back, We shall see what happens..

[Gunfixr]

This forum, like many, is for the exchange of ideas. Being that many preppers are type A personalities, we're going to have differences, and be strong about our opinions. No one will be banned just because their opinion differs from anyone elses. Now, if that opinion is destructive to the forum or its environment and members, then banning could become a possibility.
While I cannot speak for MOlivo or Legio, I do know that all of the staff here have opinions, and will voice them. Personally, while my opinion may differ from any other members opinion here, if I must make a judgement call, it is based on whether the forum is being abused, or another member is being abused, not whether my opinion differs from the other. My opinion may match that of the other persons, and I may withold it as destructive to the forum, but still make that judgement call if they express something which is against the forums policies.
This is what it means to be neutral. Not that we don't have an opinion, but that we should not use our opinion as a forum rule.

[MOlivo]

I did not mean the Admin or his Moderators can not have their own opinion, so I'm Man enough to personally apologize before I'm banned, but I imagine the ones banned have their posts deleted too..

So I feel I will be banned any way and no matter since I did a stupid post..

Thanks for the ones that answered honestly though and I truly do apologize that it sounded like I did not believe he had a opinion as the Admin..

Sorry.. and So long.. (I guess)

Do you want to be banned? So far the only one who said anything about getting banned has been you.

[Basqueguy545]

Wow this Thread got crazy!

[1911gunner]

I planned on joining the USMC many moons ago right out of high school. The plan was to be a Marine, perhaps get into Delta/Seals/ SF of some type, then go into PMCs when I got out. Well...damaged football knees stopped that. Marriage and the thought of putting my wife through 12 levels of hell being married to a LEO or National Guard getting deployed ended it completly. She would not stop me..but I couldn't bring myself to do that to her.
Would I fight today...yes without hesitation. This country was founded and defended by men willing to give up everything to defend her. I only hope that if it comes to it I could live up to the example they've been

[Lone Eagle]

Would I fight? HELL YEAH!!!

So would my wife, if need be.

We are both preparing for SHTF, and are mentally preparing the boys. If our generation doesn't see it, theirs DEFINITELY will.

[encato88]

i would fend for my family but i would also be fighting

[Catman]

Wife and kid go to safe haven with the in-laws, and I ride to the sound of gunfire. My family has not shed blood for this nation since the War Of Independence so that this land may be partitioned off and sold off.

[doc762399]

I would fight, i'm of the younger generation, and unfortunately did not join the services. But i would still fight.

[MOlivo]

I think being an american comes with the possibility of one day having to sacrifice yourself so that others may enjoy what you have...Thats just part of our culture. While most of us on here would probably fight to defend our country to the last round, that doesn't mean most people elsewhere will. However I think its more then we think it is. In the face of adversity and crisis Americans have a way of pulling together.

[T.B.]

would i join the military to go fight the wars of power-hungry, rich old men? no way.

but if i were an occupying force on this soil, i would expect that behind every tree, every fencepost, every pile of rocks, would be a Patriot who sought my blood.

some of those pansy states might not fare so well, but the Southland's gonna be alright.

[yugoshooter]

I haven't answered this because none of us know what we will do until the time comes.:salut:

[mr slow]

A NWO will happen in our time. I see nothing in it for me to fight against them or to oppose them yet.If what they do effects me and my family in a bad way! look out. I will fight to the death.

[Kicker]

A NWO will happen in our time. I see nothing in it for me to fight against them or to oppose them yet.If what they do effects me and my family in a bad way! look out. I will fight to the death.

I agree my family first. If I have to die for them I would do it with out hesitation. I also agree that in time like that like minded people will band together.

[RL357Mag]

I used to say "hell yes" I'll defend my country - I took an oath to do so many years ago - but if my country continues to deny me my rights, I just may not be willing to defend anyone but myself and my family. I certainly won't be defending anyone with Liberal values.

[wolfracer]

My wife and I would fight side by side with most of my nieghbors!

[Seitengewehr]

Rest assured, many men will be required to fight.
If the US were invaded by an enemy, they would likely call up the "unorganized militia".

This is our country, our home, and for most of us, our entire family history..
We the people would not sit idle and allow an enemy to destroy us or take us over.. We will fight.

Whether you think so or not, trust me, you will.

Look back on 9/11 and see how many americans banded together and supported the "war on terror". Nearly all americans were united in the war cries.. Flags waving and horns blowing all over america cheering on for the war...

I have confidence that if we were ever attacked on our own ground, we will band together and crush the enemy.

Our enemies know this.. it is contained within their conscious as it has been for hundreds of years, that defeat and death awaits them shall they ever attempt to attack us.. They fear us.

As long as we continue to hold onto and excersise our right to keep and bear arms, they shall never attempt to come here for a ground fight. (At least this is what I hope.)

[Mister45]

The only thing is, Now with NoGun-bama elected, we may actually have to find a way to have Guns without him and his UN controlled government knowing that we do. I for one don't have to accept his presidency and I will not acknowledge him as anything or any kind of leader... We need to awaken all those that sleep in stupidity and make them regret their error in voting for this mockery of what America really stands for.

[1911gunner]

my country died on Nov 4th 2008.

I will defend me and mine...the obamanites can take care of themselves.

[gshermer777]

Gentlemen. John Adams left his family for 7 years while his children and wife tended a FARM by themselves just so he could be a diplomat in France.

If you didn't go meet the British the next town over with your gun you'd be tar and feathered. You'd have to move to a different state.

[BeenieWeenie]

First post... been lurking for a while.

I suppose I'm what you'd call the younger generation. That doesn't mean I haven't been taught what's right and wrong, and not everyone my age are Obama-voting, shallow, narrow-minded zombies. Shells of men who vote for who's purdy, or who gives the best speeches, or who makes the most empty promises.

Anyways, enough on that rant.

My wife's and my views differ on guns and generally everything political, so she would probably not fight. I'd send her and my 19-month old son out to the middle of the Wildlife Management Area where Dad and Mom live, with his collection of various hunting rifles and 10-to-12 gauges, and he'd see to her just fine.

I'd be on the frontlines, firing whatever was available (currently a lil' .38 special... I bet it still hurts when it hits like anything else)

The thing that amazes me is that people say they'd only fight for their family because the country's went to the dump. Well, that may be true... but if the country goes under, do you think you or your family will be spared?

And it'd sure as hell be harder to stop once they're in power.

Just sayin'.

[crazypitntn]

on that note a little rant. i would fight for the american way of life, that does include protecting neighbors and friends if family is first then who will our kids marry and reproduce with if we dont band together and fight? i know i am not a fan of inbreeding.

[CrusaderSt8]

I think we (one this forum) would all fight, but what sickens me is that we would be the ones fighting and dying to defend this country while the libs would likely be running and hiding.

This also assuming they haven't taken away our means to defend ourselves by then.

[duffydog]

From any country that would dare come here (which i think they allready are with are open boarders) YES
if the Obuma commie gov. try's to take my GUNS YES
when he starts to take control and does away with the consitution and all our wrights
we will have the 2nd rev.
i joined the Marine Corps at 17 and was willing to die for her then i, i'm still willing now to
to keep our Freedom
from foreign or Domestic.

[RichieRiot]

I think that most gun owners would try and fight if it was a "Red Dawn" situation. Otherwise if it was some kind of Martial Law or Second Civil War against our own govt. most Americans would just dial 911 and pray for the LEO's to come.... or they would just hold a march or protest or something lame like that.

I know I would stand up and join the fight.

But unless it is a guerilla war, we wouldn't stand a chance against the Marines and all that high tech stuff the military has now.

[Seitengewehr]

... we wouldn't stand a chance against the Marines and all that high tech stuff the military has now.

I beg to differ..

Look at Finland vs Russia 1939 -1945.

Also consider this,

52 million households in America legally own 260 million firearms.

Our nations total armed forces combined are just under 4 million.

[duffydog]

hate to say this but the marine corps is not the same as it was in the 60 and 70's
ya they have better fire power, but what they get for recurits . have you seen drudge
4 marine's kill there sgt. and his wife.
today's military is, i joined to go to college not to fight.
all the lifers of my gen are ethier gone dead or retired.
can still hit a bull at 500 yards
bring them on.

[07hemi4me]

I have before and will again if needed...

I took an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America, against ALL Enemies Foreign and Domestic...

I have NEVER relinquished that oath!

[RichieRiot]

Your probably right Seitengewehr....
But most American's have what? 38's or hunting rifles. I know that the general public has a lot of guns... chances are they they have choppers or tanks or rockets or somthing like that. Even some of the night vision or thermal technology would be something the average citizen just does not have. I just don't know how fair of a fight it would be. Not that it would stop many people from joining the fight.

It's better to die on your feet, then on your knees.

Plus... I am sure that there would be a few current military that would join the side of the "Rebels", or at least sympathize with the "rebels" and help out.

The only plus side is that most of our military is stretched thin because they are overseas. How much of that 4 million do you think is actually stateside?

[wolfracer]

I have before and will again if needed...

I took an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America, against ALL Enemies Foreign and Domestic...

I have NEVER relinquished that oath!

Amen! I am with you. I would rather die as an example of what's right, than live as an example of what's safe.

[Draven Azropht]

I have before and will again if needed...

I took an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America, against ALL Enemies Foreign and Domestic...

I have NEVER relinquished that oath!

I'm proud to say I took the same oath and hold the same views. But, also by the very nature of that oath; I'd be "unintentionally" shooting many Americans to uphold that oath...

[Seitengewehr]

Your probably right Seitengewehr....
But most American's have what? 38's or hunting rifles. I know that the general public has a lot of guns... chances are they they have choppers or tanks or rockets or somthing like that. Even some of the night vision or thermal technology would be something the average citizen just does not have. I just don't know how fair of a fight it would be. Not that it would stop many people from joining the fight.

It's better to die on your feet, then on your knees.

Plus... I am sure that there would be a few current military that would join the side of the "Rebels", or at least sympathize with the "rebels" and help out.

The only plus side is that most of our military is stretched thin because they are overseas. How much of that 4 million do you think is actually stateside?

Chances are great that many of if not most members of the armed forces as well as law enforcement officers would be on the side of the american people..

As far as them using tanks, rockets, etc.. I hope I am right when I say I doubt they would use them considering the huge risk of collateral damages, although very possible. Nonetheless, the way I see it, their equipment can be captured too and then be used against them.

The whole advantage they have over the people is planning and organization whereas the people are not organized, other than various small groups.. It's pretty damn difficult to get a large group organized considering all the barriers they put in the way to prevent or stop the people from accomplishing it, or even talking about it....

They'd probably be doing one area at a time, so perhaps we'd lose.... suppose they started in Atlanta.. it's unlikely those from neighboring states would drive/fly over to Georgia to help defend the citizens... We the people have the numbers, but lack the organization and readiness...

Hmm.. those million man marches ring a bell.. I don't suppose there'd ever be a 25 million man march :rolleyes:

[07hemi4me]

I'm proud to say I took the same oath and hold the same views. But, also by the very nature of that oath; I'd be "unintentionally" shooting many Americans to uphold that oath...

If it gets to that point, then they are not upholding their oath and are craping on the Constitution, and they can not be considered American's anymore. :rifles:

[Draven Azropht]

I will still consider them Americans; traitors but Americans still. I won't deprive of that right to call themselves Americans. They will be dead traitorous Americans whos charred bullet ridden bodies will hang from every light pole as a warning to others. But they will be Americans until the day they die... :cool:

[nypba]

We would have to use the example of the Iraqi insurgents and fight in small groups and cells. But seitengewehr is right, almost all would not go to an area of the country to fight. They would sit in their areas and wait for the fight to come to them.

[SciasG]

I'm not sure I could trust many of my fellow Americans in one of these situations. No telling who's gonna turn you in to the invading/rogue government for taking part in rebel activities. I would keep to myself until I found a group to attach with. Then I'll do whatever needed to be done. Fighting or whatever else. But to answer the question, yes I would fight for my country.

[prkchp76]

yep im ini took th eoath i say lockem and cockem

[Jeffrey]

If my wife still lives to care for our child, I owe it to my child to provide her a safe place to live.

[fuzzydude]

We mustn't forget that whether we choose to fight or not, our actions will inevitably be an example to others, whether or not we want them to be.

Through action or inaction, each and every one of us has a profound impact on this country and the world and it's course. No man is an island.

In the situation presented by the OP, it is my belief that our greatest chance at being defeated in such a confrontation will be due to the failure of the average person to understand that he/she must act at all.

Being the perpetual optimist that I am about the future, I'm confident that America will (eventually) wake up in that situation and display the courage and character that has sat dormant in so many of us for so long. Never underestimate the ability of even those least respected characters in our land to become something greater than they are for something larger than themselves.

[knox45]

You want know the answer to that? Ask my GF what I did on September 11th- it always gives her a good laugh. When the Towers were hit I was like Damn! That’s gotta be terrorists. When the Pentagon was hit I was like, Sh!t… were being invaded! I grabbed my AR, loaded my mags, laced up me boots and loaded up my large pack with clothes, socks, MREs, venison jerky, and a first aid kit. I also threw in my flask filled with some good 15 year scotch and a few Montecristo’s. Then turned on the TV and radio and awaited my marching orders. Looking back it probably was a bit ridiculous, but hey.

[swatpup102]

You want know the answer to that? Ask my GF what I did on September 11th- it always gives her a good laugh. When the Towers were hit I was like Damn! That’s gotta be terrorists. When the Pentagon was hit I was like, Sh!t… were being invaded! I grabbed my AR, loaded my mags, laced up me boots and loaded up my large pack with clothes, socks, MREs, venison jerky, and a first aid kit. I also threw in my flask filled with some good 15 year scotch and a few Montecristo’s. Then turned on the TV and radio and awaited my marching orders. Looking back it probably was a bit ridiculous, but hey.

I'll tell ya what man, if anything like that ever happens again or an attack bigger than 9/11 as the videos say they want to do ever happen, I'll be right there doing the same thing...

[AverageLookingGuy]

I will fight, but I don't think it will be force n force i think it will be more gurrilla style fighting. I am curious though as to how many people would fight for themselves and their family and not just shuffle around the streets wondering when the US military will show up to save them.

[Kicker]

For me I would live and die for my children ( ok and the wife too?) If somthing was to happen to them I would be a suicide bomber if I had too. That is why we have such ruthless foes in the middle east. So many of them have seen there family and loved ones die for no reason. In America when that happens all we can do is sue someone. But what if they offered you a gun and a chance to avenge the death of your loved ones along with a trip to heaven. Who wouldn't. Americans may be soft for the most part, but we know what freedom is.
And it would be VERY hard to take it away from us. At least I know it would me.

[Kicker]

You want know the answer to that? Ask my GF what I did on September 11th- it always gives her a good laugh. When the Towers were hit I was like Damn! That’s gotta be terrorists. When the Pentagon was hit I was like, Sh!t… were being invaded! I grabbed my AR, loaded my mags, laced up me boots and loaded up my large pack with clothes, socks, MREs, venison jerky, and a first aid kit. I also threw in my flask filled with some good 15 year scotch and a few Montecristo’s. Then turned on the TV and radio and awaited my marching orders. Looking back it probably was a bit ridiculous, but hey.

I don't care who you are thats funny.:laughing:

[RichieRiot]

You want know the answer to that? Ask my GF what I did on September 11th- it always gives her a good laugh. When the Towers were hit I was like Damn! That’s gotta be terrorists. When the Pentagon was hit I was like, Sh!t… were being invaded! I grabbed my AR, loaded my mags, laced up me boots and loaded up my large pack with clothes, socks, MREs, venison jerky, and a first aid kit. I also threw in my flask filled with some good 15 year scotch and a few Montecristo’s. Then turned on the TV and radio and awaited my marching orders. Looking back it probably was a bit ridiculous, but hey.

That is EXACTLY what I did. But at the time I lived on top of a beer store, so I stocked up on beer and smokes, LOL.

I called out of work, loaded the arms and waited for an all out invasion. Looking back I am sure I looked a little silly, but I wasn't taking any chances. A gun is only good if it is loaded.

[Wyngnut]

Depends,

Who is "the enemy"? The enemy wears tailored suits and run for office with economic rape in mind. The enemy votes for the tailored suits to accomplish that feat.

I fight for our Constitutional Rights, I don't lay my life down for Mr Average Joe Citizen, no way. Only for a brother in Arms. We have already been taken hostage, and our Constitutional Rights rectumfied.

Wake up sleeping giant, your country needs you.

[nypba]

My girl was working for MTV at the time, but she was in midtown so I knew she did not get hit. However, I told her to stay away from Penn Station and meet up with our guys other girls in the city. Then they all went to my girl's bosses apartment to lay low. I did not have to worry about her boss trying anything, he's gay.
Us guys got together and I was the only one with a handgun. Loaded it up with other essentials in my 3 day pack and started off. None of these clowns had any gear or were prepared for anything. I mean if we ran into a car with a couple of terrorists in it with AKs, all we had was my HK .40 USP. We were heading into the city but they blocked off all major roads west bound from Long Island. Same will happen if SHTF and if Martial Law declared.

[House]

I've taken a couple days to put some consideration to a reply.....

What are you considering "this country"?

The scumbag POS in office? The hell no!

Corporate America? Screw 'em!

The Constitution, and the rights we as Americans are being stripped of?

Well, I am sworn to no oath, only to the morales instilled in my not only by my father, but my fathers father (who was born in the 1800's), and having the 1st hand experience in knowing what it was once like to live in a great country.

I've lived a pretty full life, and have been able to do alot of things many haven't. I could have died years ago, and couldn't complain about being shorted. I knew from an early point in my life, our country was "slipping", maybe it was it's citizens who were slipping, asleep at the wheel. I'd made the statement many times, over the course of many years, that this country would see another civil war. The time draws near.

I have also said, when it did, I'd be one of the 1st in line, not out of some form of bravery, but out of disgust & hatred for the evil that would desire to enslave the citizens of America, and all the generations past, present, and future. We all have a clock counting-down to our last breath, and I'll be damned if I'll be some NWO sheeple when the alarm goes off.

I'll die as I was born, an American. No more and not one stinking bit less.

[MountainBear]

Foreign invaders - hell yes.

But, the most dangerous enemy is already within this country's borders, both those that work earnestly to strip the constitution and those that gladly give away their liberty for some perceived security. This battle is nothing new, but the lines now are becoming marked now more than ever. I fear it will only accelerate.

There was a time when I would sacrifice for this country, no questions asked. Now, I would only sacrifice to repel invaders or to restore what it used to be. I have no great abilities and very little courage, but I will not stand by and watch my brethren or children be enslaved.

[Herbie Pup]

I'd fight but in a different way. If it came down to a fast, fierce battle, I could grab a gun, point and shoot. I wouldn't be too good at it though.

What would better suit me is using my mind, resourcefulness, tenacity, and feminine wiles (yes, I would use my looks but never prostitution) to thwart the enemy in any way possible to protect this country and everyone in my charge. Since I've been comfortable with strong, powerful people my whole life, it wouldn't be too difficult for me to deal with even the enemy's command level.

[Eyebone]

Or your state or town if it came down to it? Would you stand up against
the enemy if a actual land invasion was happening or would you simply find
a place and hide and hope for the best and then crawl out later and hope that
the land was still "free"?

I, Personally would not desert my wife or family, but I would fight any that happened around my land or into my own domain.

I would not go quietly... I would resist..


Hello Folks, I'm brand new here but not to the concept.

I have to kind of chuckle though because we have been experiencing a "land invasion for twenty years and not one person that I know of has fired one round in defense of this country and our way of life.

Yeah Admiral Yamamoto was right, so our enemies have taken that to heart and instead of a military invasion are using our own laws against us.

Look at LA and San Francisco, when the invaders became strong enough they pasted laws saying oh no you can't ask these people where they came from or if their here legally. Or oh no you can't deport these poor immigrants.


As we lose the country town by county by state.

Not just Mexico but China, Africa and the Middle East. We are being flooded out. What are "those people" going to fight for?

I want a working "manifesto" that defines the original intent of the Constitution.

For instance pear down the Second amendment to read, The right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed (period).

Or as I would prefer readopting the Articles of Confederation.

Well nice to meet you.

[Griffin1340]

I already took the oath "To Protect and Defend..." it is still in effect as far as I'm concerned.:soldier:

[Eyebone]

I already took the oath "To Protect and Defend..." it is still in effect as far as I'm concerned.:soldier:

Mr. Griffin, not to put you "on the spot" but where do we draw the line?

Our judges and "Representatives" may amend the Constitution ad-infinitum until it is no longer recognizable.

[Griffin1340]

Mr. Griffin, not to put you "on the spot" but where do we draw the line?

Our judges and "Representatives" may amend the Constitution ad-infinitum until it is no longer recognizable.

I know what the Constitution said...and what it meant to those who wrote it. That's what I'll defend.

[guntotinguy]

Hows that phrase go?

Id rather die on my feet than live on my knee's...

[Paladin]

Mr. Griffin, not to put you "on the spot" but where do we draw the line?

Our judges and "Representatives" may amend the Constitution ad-infinitum until it is no longer recognizable.

Only the people can ammend the constitution by a majority vote, congress can not, senate can not, and neither can any court in the land. An ammendement MUST be voted on by the population of the United States and can not simply be passed by the elected government.

[Eyebone]

You had me going there for a minute.




Amending the Constitution


Article V of the Constitution provides two processes by which amendments can be proposed and approved

Congress proposes amendments.
As is the case with the flag burning amendment, both houses of Congress approve by two-thirds votes a resolution calling for the amendment. The resolution does not require the president's signature. To become effective, the proposed amendment must then be "ratified" or approved by the legislatures of three-fourths of the states. Congress typically places a time limit of seven years for ratification by the states.


The states propose amendments.
The legislatures of two-thirds of the states vote to call for a convention at which constitutional amendments can be proposed. Amendments proposed by the convention would again require ratification by the legislatures of three-fourths of the states.
All twenty-seven amendments, including the Bill of Rights have been added through the first method. The Constitution has never been amended using the second process.

While over 10,000 have been proposed, only seventeen amendments to the Constitution have been adopted since final ratification of the Bill of Rights in 1791.



http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/blconstamend.htm

[House]

Actually there were 27......1st 10 were the Bill of Rights

[Eyebone]

Just read that last sentence again OK?

[Paladin]

You had me going there for a minute.




Amending the Constitution


Article V of the Constitution provides two processes by which amendments can be proposed and approved

Congress proposes amendments.
As is the case with the flag burning amendment, both houses of Congress approve by two-thirds votes a resolution calling for the amendment. The resolution does not require the president's signature. To become effective, the proposed amendment must then be "ratified" or approved by the legislatures of three-fourths of the states. Congress typically places a time limit of seven years for ratification by the states.


The states propose amendments.
The legislatures of two-thirds of the states vote to call for a convention at which constitutional amendments can be proposed. Amendments proposed by the convention would again require ratification by the legislatures of three-fourths of the states.
All twenty-seven amendments, including the Bill of Rights have been added through the first method. The Constitution has never been amended using the second process.

While over 10,000 have been proposed, only seventeen amendments to the Constitution have been adopted since final ratification of the Bill of Rights in 1791.



http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/blconstamend.htm


This is incorrect, it is not the legislature of the states but the PEOPLE of the states that ratify... IF the state constitution specifies the legislature has the authority to make the vote to ratify then the vote is up to the states elected representitives such as in the state of Ohio, but if the state constitution says the people directly vote then an election type ballot must be held as is required here in Wisconsin. Then the State legislature Must represent the result of the state vote.

[Rob Taylor]

I'm no Rambo but I'd do what I could, including fight

[charlie505]

I live in NYC - the Village area - also known as liberal hell. The City Council would welcome the invaders at the dock with flowers and the keys to the city. Any LEO that fights the invaders will be prosecuted by NYC attorney general and executed.
If I decided to fight, I would truly be an army of one!!!

I would do what I had to do to keep my family safe and move them to a Red State - place where people have guns and the invaders are nervous, then I would fight.

But if I had to stay in Manhattan I know lots of ways to keep the invaders busy and not get my head blown off.

[charlie505]

Originally Posted by knox45
You want know the answer to that? Ask my GF what I did on September 11th- it always gives her a good laugh. When the Towers were hit I was like Damn! That’s gotta be terrorists. When the Pentagon was hit I was like, Sh!t… were being invaded! I grabbed my AR, loaded my mags, laced up me boots and loaded up my large pack with clothes, socks, MREs, venison jerky, and a first aid kit. I also threw in my flask filled with some good 15 year scotch and a few Montecristo’s. Then turned on the TV and radio and awaited my marching orders. Looking back it probably was a bit ridiculous, but hey.

I'll tell ya what man, if anything like that ever happens again or an attack bigger than 9/11 as the videos say they want to do ever happen, I'll be right there doing the same thing...

I was out of the country on 9-11. I live walking distance from the WTC. I would have done the same. May be funny now - but who knew what else was going to happen then.

[AKtheBear]

Or your state or town if it came down to it? Would you stand up against
the enemy if a actual land invasion was happening or would you simply find
a place and hide and hope for the best and then crawl out later and hope that
the land was still "free"?

I, Personally would not desert my wife or family, but I would fight any that happened around my land or into my own domain.

I would not go quietly... I would resist..

Nope.

I already fought for my country and it was unappreciated. Now, I'm content to sit back and see what happens. This shithole is not worth giving up my life for anymore. If things rebuilt from the ground up or there was a huge change in the mindset of the people... maybe. But I will not risk life and limb again so liberal soccer moms can raise their prostitots, buy them lots of Bratz dolls, and support the raping of my personal freedoms.

Just my .02.

[Farnorthdan]

Count me in....Brothers in arms:machinegun:


DS

[Silent Running]

I've sacrificed some. I've fought. I've bled. I never expected or received a serviceman's discount. Now, just show me ONE thing, GOOD thing this country has to offer for me to pull my trigger for.....I buried my Blind Patriotism along with my Purple Heart & Commendations.

[AKtheBear]

I've sacrificed some. I've fought. I've bled. I never expected or received a serviceman's discount. Now, just show me ONE thing, GOOD thing this country has to offer for me to pull my trigger for.....I buried my Blind Patriotism along with my Purple Heart & Commendations.

AMEN BROTHER. I could not have said it better myself. I've watched friends die for freedom.. only to come back home and find out that freedom is a tenuous thing at best.

A soldier gives up his rights and freedoms to ensure the freedom of others... so the people can exercise that freedom by giving it away. It's sick.

[GreatWhiteHunter]

lock load,chem bubble gum and kick arse.get an armored semi truck like from DEATH RACE and haul ARSE

[already]

I would if I was fighting for the original constituon that our fore fathers wrote and has been either tossed out, chopped up with petty laws and amendents or just ignored.
the only laws that ever needed to be added were motor vehicle and laws to protect us from vultures like bankers and lawyers, but when they are just about the only people in office, we only have our selves to blame for the shape the country is on.JMO.

[chuck41]

I would fight in the militia to defend this country. Would I join the military to fight? Absolutely not, and here`s why:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-173889827965723460