Why hasnt anyone mentioned this one before?

[MOlivo]

Books :-) Books on fishing, books on survival, books in general. In any major scale catastrophe you can probly kiss your internet goodbye. Do you know which plants in your area are/arent ok to eat? Same with fish/sealife? Do you know how to properly prepare game to keep from getting ill? Lets face it, theres ALOT of stuff to try and remember in a case where you would permenantly (or at least for a long time) be living off the land. And when you have that much on your mind, do you know for sure your mind will be able to retain/recall everything your going to need to know? Im off tomorrow (thank God) and plan on hitting some used book stores to see if I can scrounge up anything worth reading. And anything worth reading is worth reading twice :-) Bagging up some of the more essential titles you would want to reflect back on in a SHTF situation wouldnt be a bad idea either! How about a list of some good books you guys might recommend to help others out who dont know where to start?

Matt

[chicom]

Naked into the Wilderness.

It was a series but has been condensed into two volumes. Covers everything as the title say's. Pretty good if day one does not allow you to have any of your goodies.

[maddawg918]

The Foxfire series is pretty good.

For medical, "Where there is no doctor" is invaluable.

Any books about edible plants native to your AO would also be beneficial.

You are correct Matt, we should be stocking up on written info as hard as we can, because once the power is off, it's too late.

I know several people who find good info on the net then print it out and put it in binders.

[MiamiARFan]

Don't stop at pre-printed books. Take a look at the online books in PDF format. Download them and keep them on your computer or burn them to a dvd. Print them out and put them into a 3 ring binder to build your own personal library.

[Quantrill]

Ragnar Benson - "Live off the land in the city and country"
- "Ragnar's Urban Survival"

John Lofty Wiseman - "Survival Skills of the SAS"

Boston T. Party - "Surviving y2k and other lovely disasters"
(also sold as "Surviving Doomsday")

Lee Allen Peterson - Peterson Field Guides - Edible Wild Plants

Anita Evangelista - "How to live without Electricity and like it"

Backwoods Home Magazine - has lots of useful info and a decent sale going on right now


Living in New England, I have a book on local animals and their tracks. I would highly recommend something similar for your area.

Anyone have some other good reading material?

[Gunfixr]

I have a survival library, I guess that's why I didn't think about it. It could probably use some additions, though. I'll check and post some titles.

[DirtPirate]

I second the Foxfire books...and have all my back issues of Backwoods Home...

I also...just yesterday...picked up a copy of the Merck Medical manual for home use.

Also have at least one local plant and animal guide...and have been looking for an edible plants guide.

[PAian]

I recently bought a great book on edible plants in Eastern north america . Think it is called Peterson's guide to edible plants. Did you know you can eat the flowers of a black locust trees hehe?

[RobTzu]

Eating plants is usually a exercise in futility coupled with the squirts. Most so called edible plants in CONUS are about as nutritious as lettuce. You would have to eat pounds and pounds of them to get sufficent calories, and that may not be possible. With that amount of roughage in your system... well pack extra toilet paper. Lets looksy at some calorie counts (2500 a day for a man is what you need) on common edible plants in CONUS:

Black Walnut, shelled (175 calories an ounce) You would have to eat 14.28 ounces to get your daily diet. Thats a pound, and if you ever cracked them buggers you would not look forward to the task. Plus you would have green hands.

Rasberries (50 calories a cup 125 grams) Yikes! That would be 2500/50 = 50 cups to get the daily calories! That is .125Kg * 50 = 6.25 Kilograms. 13lbs + of berries for a day.

Those are just some more common and calorie dense examples. Wild onions may flavor well, but you would starve to death trying to live off them. Same for flower petals. Run the numbers on some other things, and the work required to get that amount of edibles. Foraging for nuts and berries is not a long term survival strategy.

[Christian for Israel]

everything listed above and:

"back to basics"-readers digest

"nuclear war survival skills"-Cresson H. Kearny- http://www.oism.org/nwss/

"life after doomsday"-bruce clayton

"pulling through"-dean ing

"home and recreational use of high explosives"-ragnor benson

"improvised munitions"-US army training manual-TM 31-210- http://www.fortliberty.org/military-lib ... book.shtml (http://www.fortliberty.org/military-library/improvised-munitions-handbook/improvised-munitions-handbook.shtml) -scroll down

[Gunfixr]

Hey CFI, is that Improved Munitions book the one by Paladin Press or a real copy? I ended up getting the real copy due to finding out that Paladin press left out a few of the good things when making their copy. Hopefully you also have the real deal. I haven't tried much of it, living in the city, but in my late teens (when I got the book) I did the match heads into primers thing and loaded ammo with the primers I had made. It works, but is a lot of work and uses a lot of matches, about 12-15 per primer.

[Christian for Israel]

uh, i think i'll plead the 5th... :lol:

[stjohn45]

Here's the link for the pdf versions of "Where ther is no Doctor" and ""Where there is no Dentist"

http://www.hesperian.org/publications_download.php#wtnd

Here's the Link for Foxfire Books 1-6. Get um quick. Link working tonight but??

http://www.librum.us/i-ff/index.htm

Steve

The Foxfire series is pretty good.

For medical, "Where there is no doctor" is invaluable.

Any books about edible plants native to your AO would also be beneficial.

You are correct Matt, we should be stocking up on written info as hard as we can, because once the power is off, it's too late.

I know several people who find good info on the net then print it out and put it in binders.

[randyb]

Thanks for the foxfire links! Great series of books.
A book I would recommend: 98.6F by Cody Lunden

[ZombieHunter_EKY]

SAS Survival Handbook-John "Lofty" Wiseman
Build The Perfect Survival Kit-John McCann
U.S. Army Survival Handbook
Edible and Poisonous Plants of the Eastern US Card Deck (Front side has pic, backside has usage info and how to cook.
SAS Combat Handbook

http://a855.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/20/l_e027035f1bcecdac2f87b4fc40659b26.jpg

[dawg]

I have a copy of Build The Perfect Survival Kit-John McCann.
Just picked up SAS Survival Handbook-John "Lofty" Wiseman on Ebay. Always looking for books.

[scotto]

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And then get "Current Medical Diagnosis and treatment."

What good are all your preps going to do you if you get an infection that needs treatment?

[Christian for Israel]

excellent scotto, that's one of my personal favorites also.

[Juker008]

Those are just some more common and calorie dense examples. Wild onions may flavor well, but you would starve to death trying to live off them. Same for flower petals. Run the numbers on some other things, and the work required to get that amount of edibles. Foraging for nuts and berries is not a long term survival strategy.


You know, I looked into something as available as dates. 23 calories per date. To achieve 2500 calories off of dates, would equal 2 lbs a day of dates.

Peanuts on the other hand, you would only need to consume 1lbs to achieve 2500 calories.


Juker008

[ReverendGoo]

I don't suppose anyone has an updated foxfire pdf link? The one posted above no longer works. If that's not an option I would be greatful to have them emailed to me?