PDA

View Full Version : Large U.S. bank collapse seen ahead


Howlingwolf
08-19-2008, 01:50 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSSP21695020080819

Large U.S. bank collapse seen ahead

Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:07am EDT

SINGAPORE (Reuters) - The worst of the global financial crisis is yet to come and a large U.S. bank will fail in the next few months as the world's biggest economy hits further troubles, former IMF chief economist Kenneth Rogoff said on Tuesday.

"The U.S. is not out of the woods. I think the financial crisis is at the halfway point, perhaps. I would even go further to say 'the worst is to come'," he told a financial conference.

"We're not just going to see mid-sized banks go under in the next few months, we're going to see a whopper, we're going to see a big one, one of the big investment banks or big banks," said Rogoff, who is an economics professor at Harvard University and was the International Monetary Fund's chief economist from 2001 to 2004.

"We have to see more consolidation in the financial sector before this is over," he said, when asked for early signs of an end to the crisis.

"Probably Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- despite what U.S. Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson said -- these giant mortgage guarantee agencies are not going to exist in their present form in a few years."

Rogoff's comments come as investors dumped shares of the largest U.S. home funding companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac on Monday after a newspaper report said government officials may have no choice but to effectively nationalize the U.S. housing finance titans.

A government move to recapitalize the two companies by injecting funds could wipe out existing common stock holders, the weekend Barron's story said. Preferred shareholders and even holders of the two government-sponsored entities' $19 billion of subordinated debt would also suffer losses.

Rogoff said multi-billion dollar investments by sovereign wealth funds from Asia and the Middle East in western financial firms may not necessarily result in large profits because they had not taken into account the broader market conditions that the industry faces.

"There was this view early on in the crisis that sovereign wealth funds could save everybody. Investment banks did something stupid, they lost money in the sub-prime, they're great buys, sovereign wealth funds come in and make a lot of money by buying them.

"That view neglects the point that the financial system has become very bloated in size and needed to shrink," Rogoff told the conference in Singapore, whose wealth funds GIC and Temasek have invested billions in Merrill Lynch and Citigroup

In response to the sharp U.S. housing retrenchment and turmoil in credit markets, the U.S. Federal Reserve has reduced interest rates by a cumulative 3.25 percentage points to 2 percent since mid-September.

Rogoff said the U.S. Federal Reserve was wrong to cut interest rates as "dramatically" as it did.

"Cutting interest rates is going to lead to a lot of inflation in the next few years in the United States."

DirtPirate
08-19-2008, 09:48 PM
Not that I have much money right now...but I need all that I have...so the big question becomes...

Do you trust to have your money in smaller banks or credit unions? (that could arguably fail more easily...or possibly be insulated from collapse) Or...do you trust the solidity of a larger bank and hope yours isn't the one?

Hmmmm...... :scratch:

praetorian
08-21-2008, 11:58 AM
If you owe the bank a thousand dollars and you don't have it, you're in trouble
Owe the bank a million dollars and you don't have it, the bank's in trouble.

So what happens when the bank is owed billions of dollars and the people don't have it? Troubling times we live in and I feel strongly it's going to get a lot worse

Revelation
08-21-2008, 01:10 PM
I think there would be such a withdraws that their could be riots. I would bet that the Fed would inact a "banking holiday" freezing all monetary exchanges like withdraws, ach transfers, and credit card transactions. If it is Bank of America, Citibank, J.P. Morgan, or Wachovia collapsed the ripple effect throughout every market across the world.

merc40
08-21-2008, 08:32 PM
Citibank and/or Wachovia are the ones to watch.

BoerBoelGuy
08-23-2008, 04:33 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com:80/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a9iX_1ShWWAs&refer=home

sad to say but its becoming like a friday night sitcom :-(

merc40
08-24-2008, 12:48 PM
Great place to check on your bank

http://www.thestreet.com/tsc/ratings/screener.html

BoerBoelGuy
09-06-2008, 04:11 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com:80/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aF2bgP7BYQuU&refer=home


the hits justs keep on comin....at this rate of 1 BK per week things should get interesting? :confused:

BBG