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Howlingwolf
08-08-2008, 09:12 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/08/georgia.russia1

Georgia accuses Russia after jets bomb South Ossetia border area

Russian military planes accused of bombings at two towns near border of breakaway region

Georgia today said three Russian jets had entered its airspace and dropped bombs at two locations just south of a rebel enclave in the breakaway region of South Ossetia.

The announcement came as Russian prime minister Vladimir Putin, who is in China to attend the opening of the Olympic games, said that "aggressive" action by Georgia would incur a "response" from Russia.

A Georgian interior ministry spokesman, Shota Utiashvili, said two Russian military planes had attacked a police station near the town of Kareli, and a third dropped a bomb near the border town of Gori. Several civilians had been wounded in Kareli, he said.

The Georgian president, Mikheil Saakashvili, who has ordered the mobilisation of reservists, was quoted by Reuters as saying "the greater part" of South Ossetia had been liberated.

Russia's Interfax news agency said Georgian troops had entered the separatist South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali, a claim denied by Georgia.

Interfax quoted its correspondent on the ground as saying heavy fighting was raging in the south of the town, but Utiashvili said the information was "not correct".

Rather, he said, Georgian forces were engaged in a battle with two convoys of trucks that had entered South Ossetia from Russia and were trying to reach the breakaway capital.

"We want to give time to the remaining civilians to leave Tskhinvali, " he said, adding that Georgian forces would enter the capital "if the need arises".

South Ossetia's leader, Eduard Kokoity, said his own troops were still in control of the capital.

"We are in full control of the capital city. Fighting is on the city limits, " he told Interfax.

Georgian television said Georgian troops had taken eight South Ossetian villages, including Sarabuk, a strategic vantage point on high ground.

Whatever the precise battle details, it was clear that a serious conflict had broken out only hours after President Saakashvili promised a unilateral Georgian ceasefire and offered South Ossetia the chance of broad autonomy within Georgia. The number of casualties was unclear but likely to be high.

All eyes were on Russia and its peacekeeping contingent in the area, which Georgia accuses of supporting the separatists. The Russian peacekeepers said the Georgians were targeting their positions and they had lost some men. In Moscow, Russia's security council was due to meet in an emergency session today.

The crisis in the Caucasus represents the first major test for Russia's new president, Dmitry Medvedev, but Putin's comments from China showed that he may be the man who still really calls the shots.

Georgian forces appear to have the upper hand and the element of surprise at the moment but they could soon find themselves fighting on two fronts, as another separatist region, the Black Sea enclave of Abkhazia, announced its troops were moving towards the Georgian border. Cossaks from Russia said they were also ready to go to the aid of the South Ossetians, many of whom have Russian citizenship.

In Tskhinvali, Kokoity was meeting Teymuraz Mamsurov, the leader of North Ossetia, which is just over the border in Russia. The North Ossetians have also promised help to their South Ossetian brethren.

Mamsurov said a convoy of lorries carrying humanitarian aid from his region was attacked by Georgian war planes during the night.

amoebaface
08-08-2008, 04:51 PM
Surprised this hasn't generated more discussion. This has the potential to be a real SHTF senario with a Nuclear superpower invading a nation (friend of US as well) for the same reason Hitler rolled into Poland in 39. We all know what followed that.

TexianPatriot
08-08-2008, 05:23 PM
S is HTF. WWIII is right around the corner and those idiots on wall street are selling oil, gold, silver, corn, wheat, ect? WTF are they thinking?

amoebaface
08-08-2008, 05:33 PM
PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA DMITRY MEDVEDEV Statement on the Situation in South Ossetia

August 8, 2008

The Kremlin, Moscow

As you know, Russia has maintained and continues to maintain a presence on Georgian territory on an absolutely lawful basis, carrying out its peacekeeping mission in accordance with the agreements concluded. We have always considered maintaining the peace to be our paramount task. Russia has historically been a guarantor for the security of the peoples of the Caucasus, and this remains true today.

Last night, Georgian troops committed what amounts to an act of aggression against Russian peacekeepers and the civilian population in South Ossetia. What took place is a gross violation of international law and of the mandates that the international community gave Russia as a partner in the peace process.

Georgia's acts have caused loss of life, including among Russian peacekeepers. The situation reached the point where Georgian peacekeepers opened fire on the Russian peacekeepers with whom they are supposed to work together to carry out their mission of maintaining peace in this region. Civilians, women, children and old people, are dying today in South Ossetia, and the majority of them are citizens of the Russian Federation.

In accordance with the Constitution and the federal laws, as President of the Russian Federation it is my duty to protect the lives and dignity of Russian citizens wherever they may be.

It is these circumstances that dictate the steps we will take now. We will not allow the deaths of our fellow citizens to go unpunished. The perpetrators will receive the punishment they deserve.

Neckbone
08-08-2008, 05:52 PM
MSN reports that Georgia has the 3rd highest number of combat troops in Iraq. Chances are some of them will be leaving theater. Georgia stood with USA in Iraq; will USA stand with Georgia to defend against the Russian Bear? Hold on tight folks.

chicom
08-08-2008, 06:02 PM
It may go somewhere it may not. This will be a diplomatic heavy incident with all the usual suspects involved; NATO, UN, EU, US, maybe even Switzerland. If all that fails or US servicemen get caught in the fray, then I'll worry.

I'm watching this more than anything else very carefully.

07hemi4me
08-08-2008, 07:21 PM
Well have a bunch of hypocrites running this country... I mean, heres Bush and Rice and others telling Russia (Putin) that they should not be doing this, but, oh my it is OK for us to invade Iraq...

Do as I say not as I do mentality...

merc40
08-08-2008, 09:48 PM
:rolleyes: