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hitech_hick
07-29-2008, 03:36 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080729/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_ahmadinejad


TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's president on Tuesday blamed the U.S. and other "big powers" for global ills such as nuclear proliferation and AIDS, and accused them of exploiting the U.N. for their own gain and the developing world's loss.

But, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said, time was on the poor countries' side.

"The big powers are going down," Ahmadinejad told foreign ministers of the Nonaligned Movement meeting in Tehran. "They have come to the end of their power, and the world is on the verge of entering a new, promising era."

The more than 100-member NAM is made up of such diverse members as communist Cuba, Jamaica and India and depicts itself as bloc-free. But most members share a critical view of the U.S and the developed world in general.

And with Iran assuming the chairmanship of the conference Tuesday, Ahmadinejad's keynote speech was tailored to reflect the struggle that some NAM members see themselves in against the world's rich and powerful countries.

A draft of the final document that ministers will be asked to approve, made available to The Associated Press as the conference opened Tuesday, reflected that struggle.

"The rich and powerful countries continue to exercise an inordinate influence in determining the nature and direction of international relations, including economic and trade relations, as well as rules governing these relations, many of which are at the expense of developing countries," it said.

NAM countries oppose "unilaterally imposed measures by certain states ... the use and threat of use of force, and pressure and coercive measures as a means to achieving their national policy objectives," said the draft.

That appeared to be an indirect slap at the United States, which has refused to rule out force as a possible means of last resort against Iran unless it heeds U.N. Security Council demands to curb its nuclear activities.

The draft also condemns "the categorization of countries as good or evil based on unilateral and unjustified criteria" — oblique criticism of President Bush's labeling of Iran as part of an "axis of evil" along with Saddam Hussein's Iraq and North Korea.

Iran has in the past counted on NAM countries to blunt pressure from the U.S. and its allies for harsh U.N. sanctions and other penalties because of its refusal to freeze uranium enrichment, which can produce both nuclear fuel or the fissile payload of warheads. Tehran has been slapped with three sets of U.N. sanctions because of its nuclear defiance and new penalties loom unless Tehran shows compromise.

Another draft statement also obtained by the AP before the meeting began seeks continued support. Submitted by Iran on behalf of the NAM, it asks the conference to agree that "sanctions imposed on Iran for its nuclear program are of a political nature and should be promptly removed."

The ministers "further affirm ... that there is no legal basis that (the) U.N. Security Council proceeds" in continuing to deal with the Iran nuclear file, said that draft.

While only infrequently mentioning the U.S. by name Tuesday, Ahmadinejad made clear that he blamed Washington and its allies for trying to "impose their political will on nations and governments."

He accused the great powers of "fomenting discord .... to intensify the military and arms race" so they can feed their arms industries. AIDS, he said, also was the result of world conditions "imposed by big powers."

Accusing the U.N. Security Council of being a tool of the world's haves — which use them against the have-nots — he said it was useless to expect that body to be the solution to the world's ills.

"If the United Nations and the Security Council ... were supposed to deal with the problems of the world ... we would not have a problem called Palestine," he declared, in indirect criticism of the creation of the Jewish state 60 years ago.

Sounds like a thinly veiled threat if you ask me...


hick

Legio
08-05-2008, 11:49 AM
Israel is Gods holy land, populated by Gods choosen people. Any and all sacrifices must be considered when it comes to protecting the choosen land and choosen ones. Israel is Americas greatest ally and we owe it to Israel to protect them at all costs. If this means nuking Iran, then so be it, since God would want all of us to sacrifice everything for the sake of the choosen land and the choosen people. I also say this because Iran threatens the entire world with its evils and Israel is not a threat to anyone or any nation. Israel is a holy land inhabited by honest and holy people / government.

Let me guess, you're a jew from Israël, right?

You see I hate the jew rethoric about "the chosen people" as mush as the muslim "infidels". Now just tell me that I am a "gentile" and it will be the worst of it all. After, Iran and all the muslims are gone (which I am all for it) let wipe out the non-chosen, right? Your whole post just sickens me.

MOlivo
08-05-2008, 12:03 PM
Going by his logic, since a few bad people are responcible for making Iran look bad enough to make it OK to kill everyone there, israel has a few bad apples themselves...Is it ok to nuke them as well? The United States has invaded several middle eastern countries...can anyone really blame Iran for wanting a deturrent?

alpmco
08-05-2008, 02:14 PM
IMO it is a feeble mind that uses God and religion as an excuse to wage war. That includes the holy crusades.
The people who wrote the holy books believed the world was flat! They had no knowledge of what would become known as the Americas.
Who wrote these books? OK, God through man ... and over the centuries who rewrote these books? Kings and religious leaders ... think maybe some liberties were taken along the way?
This discussion could take hours to clarify my meaning ... I can't type that long. I believe in the writings, or more specifically the lesson they are meant to teach ... not necessarily that the story is 100% accurate and to the letter truthful ... more of a parable. Lessons taught simply for the simple and childish.

chicom
08-05-2008, 09:10 PM
I understand you alpmco, I know where you are coming from. It is not necessary to elaborate.

Parable hit the nail squarely on the head.


I just want to know why I'm not one of the chosen people. I mean my wiener is snipped in the traditional fashion. I do love BBQ ribs and fresh Florida Boar though. Not to mention bacon and sausage. How do we actually know who is actually chosen. My extended family, we have Catholics, almost every stripe of Protestantism, some Jewish, and even Mormon.

I guess we are all hedging our bets. At least a few of us will enjoy eternal bliss.

Chuckle.