Who here cannot see the plan is to weaken America?

[PAian]

With the U.N taking over most all of the bases closed down in the USA. Since most American soldiers WILL NOT disarm their fellow countrymen. So send them ALL over there out of the way eh and you got yourself a very clever way of making it somewhat easy to disarm most of the USA. I personaly believe at least 50% of gun owners in America will give their guns up to U.N soldiers at their request. I wish it wasnt true, but look at Katyrina's confescations.

[chicom]

What military bases in the United States has the United Nations taken over?

I believe 80% of the US gun owning population would voluntarily relinquish their arms when asked to comply.

The UN has a very poor record of conducting military operations, especially in Africa, Rwanda and Liberia to be exact. I would not fear them too much or put too much emphasis on their capabilities.

[Aaron Mann]

man, i could list all kinds of things for you that point to the usa being shoved back down into the dirt.

just look at our soon to be 10 TRILLION dollar national debt. the economy can't do this forever. economists have been predicting the financial collapse for quite some time, and it still hasn't happened yet but that doesn't mean it isn't looming over our heads. sad that most people don't see it, they don't think about the inflation, as long as they have money for the weekend and to pay their bills they could care less. but not everyone is blind. lots of people see the trouble with the economy, those who are in real estate for example.

that's an interesting theory about sending more troops to the middle east to make the usa civilians a little more vulnerable. i had never thought of it but even still, there are a lot of armed americans here, and every time i think about martial law i think about gangsters and bikers and just plain old folks who wouldn't just give it up without a fight. i'm screwed because i don't even own a gun. i'm gonna have to fight them off with my sword and how far do you think that will get me?

then there was the footage in an alex jones film that showed foreign troops training in montana i think he said it was, to disarm americans. they even had actors shouting out "i'm an american citizen", "i have rights", "you can't do this to me", and other phrases like that while the soldiers broke into the house and searched it. they're conditioning these soldiers to ignore their cries. and the footage of that was just a few years ago. think about how far they've come.

then there's the borders being wide open, and the NAU being set up to merge america with canada and mexico.

there's going to be a big transofrmation here in the states and the people with their faces constantly stuck in their television sets will never see it coming. they will all be shocked. when your president rigs an election and later claims that he is above the law, that laws don't apply to him, when he can approve of things like wiretapping on citizens living in the private sector and torture, and constantly losing billions of dollars, lying the public into war, black ops in the cities, then you're not living in a democracy, you're living in a dictatorship. masquerading around as a democracy because they don't have totalatarian control yet. we're not disarmed yet.

clinton got impeached for less. the war on terror isn't a war on radical islamic extremists. it is the war on US! we're being slowly shoveled into a control grid like cattle. soon everyone will have an RFID chip in their pocket, in their phone, in their car (onstar), and soon we will be getting them in our skin. the military has already started chipping soldiers, and corporations have already started chiping their employees. owners branding their herds. verichip. wave of the future. life in glass houses. no privacy control grid. if all your transactions are done on a chip that can be deactivated by the government, then being a dissenter would be dangerous. if you want to buy food then you better do what you're told, slave. get back in line and shut up. behave.

there are also detainment camps all around the US. they are used for illegals in transit and national enemies, however, they could just as easily be used for the citizens themselves, and they have been. protesters have been shoved into them and there was one case, i think it was in boston, the place had espestos and people were getting sick in there. people were just shoved into a warehouse for like 3 days. they weren't allowed to call anyone, nothing.

ick. i could go on and on but i have to go to bed. so much to do tomorrow ...

[Aaron Mann]

the UN is a joke, it almost looks like something the 'globalists' (you know, the people who want a one world system / one world government), created to try and achieve that goal but it failed because all they can do in there is disagree and nothing gets done in any reasonable amount of time. now they're trying to use DHS to do it, just look at this:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/3/31/1828/16663

Sat Mar 31, 2007 at 04:03:53 PM PDT
Slashdot and Cryptome report that the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is demanding the master key for the DNS root zone - a demand that has other nations alarmed. With the master key, DHS would have control over the Internet, as Slashdot describes, quoting an "anonymous reader."

The key will play an important role in the new DNSSec security extension, because it will make spoofing IP-addresses impossible. By forcing the IANA [Internet Assigned Numbers Authority] to hand out a copy of the master key, the US government will be the only institution that is able to spoof IP addresses and be able to break into computers connected to the Internet without much effort.

The issue arose at Friday's meeting of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) in Lisbon, Portugal.

Deep Harm's diary :: ::
There is no indication yet that U.S. mainstream news media have reported on the DHS proposal. U.S. coverage of the ICANN meeting focused (predictably) on a proposal to create a domain specifically for adult websites. Cryptome cites a German news source, Heisse Online, which provides the following information.

The US Department of Homeland Security (DHS)...wants to have the key to sign the DNS root zone solidly in the hands of the US government. This ultimate master key would then allow authorities to track DNS Security Extensions (DNSSec) all the way back to the servers that represent the name system's root zone on the Internet. The "key-signing key" signs the zone key, which is held by VeriSign. At the meeting of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) in Lisbon, Bernard Turcotte, president of the Canadian Internet Registration Authority (CIRA) drew everyone's attention to this proposal as a representative of the national top-level domain registries (ccTLDs).



At the ICANN meeting, Turcotte said that the managers of country registries were concerned about this proposal. When contacted by heise online, Turcotte said that the national registries had informed their governmental representatives about the DHS's plans. A representative of the EU Commission said that the matter is being discussed with EU member states. DNSSec is seen as a necessary measure to keep the growing number of manipulations on the net under control. The DHS is itself sponsoring a campaign to support the implementation of DNSSec. Three of the 13 operators currently work outside of the US, two of them in Europe. Lars-Johan Liman of the Swedish firm Autonomica, which operates the I root server, pointed out the possible political implications last year. Liman himself nominated ICANN as a possible candidate for the supervisory function.

When other nations are worried, Americans, too, should be concerned. The Bush administration has demonstrated that it is unable to wield power responsibly. Therefore, its demand for Internet control should be viewed as an opportunity to abuse its authority to control a medium that has played a critical role in holding it accountable.


the DHS man, wants to control the internet now. great. for what, to fight the war on terror, or to pick certain computers to shut off, like mine and people like me who speak out against the fascism.

[chicom]

i'm gonna have to fight them off with my sword and how far do you think that will get me?

Man, I want to be there for that one with popcorn in hand. Good luck to ya, Sir Lancelot.


just look at our soon to be 10 TRILLION dollar national debt. the economy can't do this forever.

That's the beauty of it. The FED cannot call in the marker on that one. There is not enough currency in circulation to cover that. If the FED Reserve tried to collect, the system would collapse and take them down as well. HA HA HA HA , looks like we got the bilderburgers by the balls, huh Aaron.


there's going to be a big transofrmation here in the states

Will this be televised so I can watch it and Tivo it? :)

[Aaron Mann]

you will probably get a front row seat like the rest of us.

and i hope you're right about the fed. we pay taxes on earned income to pay their spending interest, but with the NAU they've talked about ushering in a new currency with it as well, like the amero or something, like how europe uses the euro, but the amero (if its called that) would become the standard currency for canada, usa and mexico.

my guess is the dollar bubble will burst at precisely the time the new currency is being ushered in. we might get lucky enough to not even notice the change. much. i'm sure they've planned for it. the people in charge may be crooks and liars but they're not dumb.

[Uncle Screwtape]

the DHS man, wants to control the internet now. great. for what, to fight the war on terror, or to pick certain computers to shut off, like mine and people like me who speak out against the fascism.

Isn't the net theirs, didn't the US military invent it?




Oh, no, wait, it was Al gore! :lol:

[MOlivo]

I wont be giving them my guns, but ill be happy to give them the ammo...

:machinegun:

[chicom]

Oh, no, wait, it was Al gore!


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[Gunfixr]

I'll be more than happy to hand over my guns....right after the last bullet goes down the barrel. After all, when they come up to take the gun, they'll be in reach of the sword, and suddenly I'll have more bullets. ;)

[spam_can]

Got to love those blue uniforms, though;

I think some red accents are needed to complete the look. I'd be glad to experiment if they come around wanting my input.